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Friday, February 09, 2007

When is Abortion Murder?

I have just finished reading an article [here] from the Baptist Press and can’t help but comment.

The article begins with “Mississippi's Senate easily passed a bill Feb. 7 banning most abortions”, so my very first question then is what does “most” mean? They tell me in the second paragraph, “abortion except in cases of rape, incest and to save the mother's life”.

There are many which would applaud this effort, as in the example of Tanya Britton, president of Pro-Life Mississippi. She says [as reported] “Mississippi needs to go on record about its position on abortion so that there is no question that people in the state, No. 1, are pro-life and No. 2, do object vehemently to the taking of the life of any child”.

What exactly is the message that is being sent? The message being sent is not “Mississippi is pro-life”, but “Mississippi is conditionally pro-life”. There is a difference. If one is pro-life then we must also include being pro-life to the children of “rape, incest and to save the mother's life” situations.

I am not clear as to how they can claim on one hand “The Mississippi bill says "every human being, including those in utero, possesses a natural intrinsic right to live and has an interest in life" and that the abortion procedure is "inherently dangerous to the psychological and physical health of the woman.”, then on the other hand not include all abortions. That is like saying, “every baby, well every baby but these”.

So when exactly does abortion become murder? Apparently when one wants it to.

If abortion is wrong for the non “rape, incest and to save the mother's life” then it is wrong for the “rape, incest and to save the mother's life” case. It is like the cases that we have if a mother wants to abort [murder] the baby she is carrying it is just a fetus and not a baby and she may do so, but if she wants the baby and the baby [while unborn] is killed by someone else they can be charged with killing it.

What if they [the killer] are a doctor too, can they whip out their license to practice?

To say that an unborn baby is not a baby, a human, a child is like saying the mentally handicap child that can do nothing, which must be fed, bathed, and cared for in everyway is not a human either. God help us! Guess this is why we don’t have a problem with aided suicide either. You better pray before you are sent to the hospital and have to be put on machines – they’ll just unplug you I guess because you want be human either.

Just do a quick search of your Bible [you can even use BibleGateway.com], and see if an unborn child is a person in God’s eyes.

A simple look at John the Baptist clearly removes any doubt of whether an unborn baby is considered a live and indeed a person yet before they are born.

Luke 1:15, John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb
Luke 1:44, For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Of course it is no secret that when a lady goes in to get an ultra sound by the fifth week, that soft sound one hears is called a heart beat [info].

I have heard that some wish to believe that a baby [fetus] is not a baby [child] until it comes forth from the womb and breathes its first breath. They site Genesis 2:7, by noting that God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” The only problem is we don’t see God breathing life into Eve, and I only have two children but neither of them came out of the womb needing someone to breathe life into them. This would only occur from a medical problem like the umbilical chord being wrapped around their neck or something in the womb.

My point is this: Yes it is good to be able to limit all of the abortions we possibly can, but we shouldn’t pat ourselves on the back and believe we have done God a great service or have shown our light proudly before a lost and dying world when we tell them that abortion is murder UNLESS for “rape, incest and to save the mother's life”.

I am sorry if one has been rape. Being a man and not having someone close to me having had to go through that situation I can’t even imagine how it must be. But I can say that the little baby growing inside of that lady is indeed a person and it was not their [the baby] fault that it happened either.

The same goes for the one that is pregnant due to incest. It is sickening that a father, that should be there to love and teach their daughters the things of God, would selfishly and perversely defile their own child for the sake of their own lust.

Both cases in mind: The babies in their wombs are still alive, just as John the Baptist was. So for us to tell the one that made the choice to become pregnant, “You can not abort”, yet the one that has been forced pregnant, “You can abort” is both hypocritical and unscriptural. We can tell neither, “It is okay for you to abort the child within your womb.”

Our problem is that our emotions want to feel sorry for one [which we should] and angry at the other [which we should also remember grace], and we let it cloud our mind from biblical perspective [i.e. Biblical truth from the Word of God].

As for the last case, “to save the mother's life”, in my opinion can not be associated with the others. Why? Because this is not a choice of the mother as to whether the child is a baby or not, but is a choice to decide who lives. Still a choice and still has consequences. I do not know the amount of cases of this, but surely they are slim compared to the number of abortion clinic cases. If it were me, I would tell the doctors to do whatever it takes to save both. Yet scripture declares, “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” [John 15:13] I’ll let you decide if you should take this to allow the baby to live over the mother or not. The point is to remember that the child is still a child and not just okay to abort for the sake of it not really being a child yet or due to selfish reasons on the part of the mother.

Surely, if read, this will cause controversy, but let it not be due to emotion and feeling – let your thoughts be grounded in the Word of God, our final authority.

The cry, “It is my body and I should be able to do with it what I want” isn’t going to cut it with God. And don’t think that woman [child] in the belly that is fixing to be suck out wouldn’t make the same claim.

5 comments:

Bobby Cohoon said...

Tim,
This is an awesome post! I wish I had seenit when it first came out so I could have sent out links to it then: I promise it will be linked on my next update.
Keep up the good work Brother,
Bobby

ConcernedEngineer said...

I am with you. Abortion is America's Holocaust.
However, in the case when continuing a pregnancy means that the mother will die, I'm not sure that we can insist - in that rare case - that the mother should give up her life for her baby.

In other words, if an infant is trapped in a house that is on fire, I don't think we can charge the mother with a crime if she doesn't risk her life in order to save her child's life - tragic as that situation would be. Many heroic and selfless women would risk their lives in order to save their babies, but in that extreme case (and only in that extreme case) should there be an option for abortion.

But this is obviously not the case in over 99.5% of the abortion cases. Roe needs to be overturned. Abortion is America's Holocaust. The unborn child is a child. The fact that people won't recognize the personhood of the unborn is sick, evil, sinful, and wrong.

That's why it is so important that we make sure that Giuliani never gets to the White House. He is pro-choice and would undoubtedly appoint pro-choice Supreme Court justices to the bench.

http://www.credenda.org/issues/8-5anvil.php

ConcernedEngineer said...

By the way...
This is the rhetoric of the enemy:
http://udoj.wordpress.com/2007/01/24/the-truth-about-fetuses/
A large part of our culture hates the womb and hates the unborn with a hatred inspired by the devil.
May God arise and His enemies be scattered!

BEAST said...

Rubbish.

Abortion is mandated and legal in most secular states.

If abortion is holocaust, think about the thousands of adults who die of AIDS because some stupid Institution chooses to teach its one billion contingent that condom use is evil.

And since abortion is a purely human issue, why the need to bring deities into the picture?

RunningFree said...

THank you for confronting this issue with such Holy Spirit boldness & truth(an issue so close to my heart, that I can personally attest to) ...when the debate about abortion comes up, I refer others to the passage in Psalm 139:16 "You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life WAS recorded in Your book. Every moment WAS laid out BEFORE a single day had passed."
Since God of Heaven, our Creator knows beforehand our names, our number of days on earth, He reveals clearly that every life conceived is a life planned by Him;
but those of us blinded in darkness by a very real enemy who seeks to entrap us, will undoubtedly struggle to accept & understand Gods love/truth & righteousness...thus giving in to evil deceptions from this enemy who comes only to 'rob, kill & destroy'...I challenge anyone who declares something as fact to back it up with Gods word & watch the light of it expose the lies rooted so deeply within, planted so subtly, lies which are only planned to destroy us & those around us...God help us.

John Bunyan

To be saved is to be preserved in the faith to the end. 'He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.' (Mt. 24:13) Not that perseverance is an accident in Christianity, or a thing performed by human industry; they that are saved 'are kept by the power of God, through faith unto salvation.' (1 Pet. 1: 3-6) But perseverance is absolutely necessary to the complete saving of the soul…. He that goeth to sea with a purpose to arrive at Spain, cannot arrive there if he be drowned by the way; wherefore perseverance is absolutely necessary to the saving of the soul.