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Friday, May 25, 2007

Greek Mythical gods Brought To Life

Apparently the UK is going to allow animal-human hybrids. The article claims “THE government yesterday bowed to pressure from scientists to allow the creation of hybrid animal-human embryos for stem-cell research.”

National Review Online had an article in 2002 speaking of this same issue of the mixing of human and animal DNA which it labeled as “transhumanism: a nascent and explicitly eugenic philosophy that advocates taking control of human evolution through gene modification.”. Some of their beliefs presented are “they hope will eventually lead to public acceptance of genetic manipulation — not just to improve health, but to change our very natures.” And “They claim humans should not merely be allowed to metamorphose themselves through surgery, cybertechnology, and the like, but should have the right to control the destiny of their genes by means of progeny design and fabrication.”

In 2005 there is an article by the Associated Press of MSNBC speaking of “a flock of about 50 smelly sheep, many of them possessing partially human livers, hearts, brains and other organs.” It is said “In the past two years, scientists have created pigs with human blood, fused rabbit eggs with human DNA and injected human stem cells to make paralyzed mice walk.” They do have worries though, as such: “Particularly worrisome to some scientists are the nightmare scenarios that could arise from the mixing of brain cells: What if a human mind somehow got trapped inside a sheep’s head?” But they must not be too scared for “In January, an informal ethics committee at Stanford University endorsed a proposal to create mice with brains nearly completely made of human brain cells.”

Apparently this bill in the UK asks for two things:

1] “allows scientists to create "cytoplasmic" hybrid embryos, which are 99.9 per cent human and 0.1 per cent animal, such as cow or rabbit.”

2] “allows human embryos to be altered by the introduction of animal DNA.”

Of course, “True hybrids - creatures created by the fusion of sperm and eggs - remain outlawed. In all cases, it remains illegal to allow hybrid embryos to grow for more than 14 days or for them to be implanted in a womb.”

Will we one day see movies made by real actors playing the parts of Greek gods instead of costumes and special effects? Hmmm…

Will scientists then use their creations to “prove” the macroevolution process of species to species jump is real?


Lazarus Resources said...

Very interesting. As far as I know, no one has been able to create any kind of creature with rationality, or any kind of human thinking abililties. You can inject DNA into a mouse, but only God breathes our soul into us. I remain confident that scientists will hit a wall when they try to duplicate that. By the way thanks for the link.

Writer, Splinters of Silver.com said...

Who knows what science may present in the future.

In 2 Thessalonians 2 it talks about "God shall send them strong delusion" because they "believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness".

BEAST said...

Yawn. People like Splinter only know how to play up the feelings of scared flocks of sheep.

The reason why scientists use gene therapy is to one day replace life human organ transplants with human ones.

Stuff like livers and corneas cannot be gotten easily sometimes. Just ask the millions of people awaiting for organ transplant everywhere on this planet.

Instead of fear mongering, I would expect people like you to at least promote, or at least remain neutral, to such scientific endeavors.

Writer, Splinters of Silver.com said...

fear mongering

If you read fear from this post, you have read too much into it.

Do I think that mixing human-animal DNA is a good thing? NO.

Do I think people will use the mixing of human-animal DNA to claim proof to macroevolution? Yes.

I believe you have already done as much when talking of the mixing of animals science has done.

Believing this does not mean I fear it. It is funny how often I hear atheists say how much they are abused, yet seem to also say that Christians are the ones always afraid. Hmmm...

BEAST said...


The meaning of fearmongering is to spread fear; it does not mean the originator of such lies harbors such fears.

Please, if you want a debate in English, look for someone with a inferior understanding of the English language. Don't make me insult you again and again. Its not nice.

BEAST said...

I have actually posted on my blog with regards to this issue.

I think for the most part, scientists have been mixing genes around for many years, hybrid crops, plants, crossbreeding tigers with lions, etc, so when genetic manipulation is concerned, putting human DNA into animal embryos is probably nothing too dramatic.

As for using gene therapy to prove macroevolution, tsk tsk....ask any reputable scientist, and he or she will tell you that fossils and other data are plentiful enough to prove it.

And what do you bloody christians have to prove your stupid religious fables?

BEAST said...

Well. I for one would not have said that atheists are "abused". Sure, we are discriminated against. After all, most American Christians hate and mistrust atheists more than you do to gays.

But abuse would seem like a one way train: We are no longer taking verbal hammerings anymore. As a matter of fact, we are fighting back. People like Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins and even James Randi have given atheism a rational and logical dimension to the infidelic creed.

Abused? Hardly. On the contrary, it is people like you who claimed to be persecuted at every turn.

John Bunyan

To be saved is to be preserved in the faith to the end. 'He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.' (Mt. 24:13) Not that perseverance is an accident in Christianity, or a thing performed by human industry; they that are saved 'are kept by the power of God, through faith unto salvation.' (1 Pet. 1: 3-6) But perseverance is absolutely necessary to the complete saving of the soul…. He that goeth to sea with a purpose to arrive at Spain, cannot arrive there if he be drowned by the way; wherefore perseverance is absolutely necessary to the saving of the soul.