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Tuesday, May 08, 2007

Christians vs. Atheists – Does God Exist – Debate

Apparently on May 5, 2007 at debate between Christians Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron and Atheists Brian Sapient and "Kelly" (who apparently did not want to give her real name) took place at Calvary Baptist Church in New York City.

The debate is to air on ABC News Now tomorrow afternoon and Nightline tomorrow night on Wednesday, May 9, 2007.

Informing articles:


I haven’t seen the debate, but according to the link above, “Kelly” had a “wardrobe malfunction” that was most inappropriate for such a place (church) and situation (intellectual debate).

Interestingly it seems that this Brian Sapient and “Kelly” are a part of the following:

“The Rational Response Squad challenges people to take the Blasphemy Challenge in which they make videos of themselves denouncing or blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and then post them on YouTube.”

In my opinion, it is one thing to claim to be an atheist by which you believe there is no God, but to coherence teens (or anyone) into “denouncing or blaspheming the Holy Spirit” – which an atheist claims not to believe exist – there must be a deeper agenda. Yes, I believe, an underlying purpose must exist for such a motivation to move a group.

Tune-in and let’s see what we can glean from this.


Adam Gonnerman said...

I have heard that "evangelical atheism" is on the rise, especially in Europe. By this it is meant that people are not only choosing to be atheists, but actively trying to convert others to their unbeliefs.

One could wish for a better representantive of Christianity than Kirk Cameron. I don't doubt his sincerity, and he WAS an atheist in his youth, but his theology is pretty pop-culture.

Splinters of Silver said...

Hmmm..."evangelical atheism" - Interesting...

And the atheist site I have been visiting seem to believe that does not happen.

Thanks for the visit Adam.

Yulacu said...

I think open-atheists are on the rise. People are not afraid to openly admit they are atheist. This is a change that has happend over recent years in part due to a number of things. If I had to guess some of the significant factors that I think have brought a lot of atheists out in the open are the advances in science and the nature in which the state and church have intertwined in recent years.

If I had to pick anyone to represent the atheist community at a debate that would air on national television, the people behind the Blasphemy Challenge wouldn't exactly be my first choice. Brian's tactics can be a bit sophomoric at times. Personally, I don't think Brian's agenda is really that deep. Alot of it is just a grass roots advertising technique for his website and movie.

Splinters of Silver said...

Thanks for the visit Alpha,

It appears that people on both sides don't really consider the Christians or the Atheists in this debate to be their favorites.

I still hope to watch it.

concerned citizen said...

I agree with the alpha I wouldn't pick "The Rational Response Squad" guy to represent me, either.

"evangelical atheism" interesting term. Well, there are two sides to every coin.

Splinters of Silver said...

What a disappointment! I stayed up to watch the debate and only got glimpses and pieces.

Does anyone know where we can get the whole thing?

John Bunyan

To be saved is to be preserved in the faith to the end. 'He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.' (Mt. 24:13) Not that perseverance is an accident in Christianity, or a thing performed by human industry; they that are saved 'are kept by the power of God, through faith unto salvation.' (1 Pet. 1: 3-6) But perseverance is absolutely necessary to the complete saving of the soul…. He that goeth to sea with a purpose to arrive at Spain, cannot arrive there if he be drowned by the way; wherefore perseverance is absolutely necessary to the saving of the soul.